I had begun studying with Stefan Wolpe about that same time, late '45, and that opened up a whole world to me. But before that there was always a curiosity of how does this work. What Bartók and Stravinsky were doing in those days was not [what] I might have been used to hearing. How that fit into the total thing fascinated me, and I did want to learn about it. I wanted to learn about Schoenberg. I never got quite to Schoenberg, it never turned me on the way the others did. It still doesn't. Wolpe was a twelve-tone writer, but what a good teacher, what an inspirational human being he was.
After studying at the Juilliard School Eddie Sauter (1914-1981) played trumpet in Red Norvo's band from 1936 and soon became the arranger. From 1939 he worked freelance, writing for Artie Shaw and Benny Goodman. He began studies with Wolpe in 1945 and implemented many of the ideas he learned from his teacher in orchestrations for Ray McKinley, the Sauter-Finegan Orchestra (1952-57), and others. Interview: Kirchner, Nyack, New York, 1980. Jazz Oral History Project of the Smithsonian Institute, 187-8.